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It was Thursday evening . . . And it was now VicFest
2001, everything would get better!
Fridays Pictures
Sorry I didn't get a lot of shots of folks on Friday
as I was swamped with getting details of Dick Munsells 1980 Victoria.
1980 was a very good year!
Having never seen a 1980 model, I was impressed with the amount
of information that I walked away with. Most of the boats we see
are typically 1979 or earlier, and 1981 or later. The missing
link, and the mid point for all of the changes that were implemented
on the "Standard" 1981 Models and beyond were tested
and tried on the 1980 model previous to production of the 81 and
above.
The 1980 model is varied and shows many of the details of the
1981, and a number of the details of the 1979 model.
One can see that partial concepts such as the cabin sole liner,
and the braces on the interior corners of the coaming inside the
cabin were "roughed in", but were not yet fully designed
into place during production in 1980.
1980 was the first year of the newer designed deck without
the bow end of the coaming angled down and in which it allowed
water to stand on the deck below the ports.
This year was also the first year for the "quad"
ports. Previous to 1980, the ports were a single long piece of
plexiglass.
In addition, the first picture shows that the teak around the
companionway was (and I don't know the wood working technical
terms here), cat to allow the placement of the hatch boards into
the companionway. Later Models just used standard pieces of wood
with no "notch" cut out. In the newer models, the inside
corners of the companionway were molded to accept standard 3/4
teak with the trim being standard 3/4 teak also.
Note also the Design of the gel coat around the cockpit
thru hulls, and the size of the thru hulls mushroom
head (about 1 1/2 inches versus the 2" on the 81 and above).
Here on the Starboard side, inside the cabin looking
toward the stern at the bulkhead. On 1981 and newer models there
is a 5" x 7"
stiffening plate fiber glassed into position between the bulkhead
and the side of the cabin top where the ports are mounted.
Same for the Port side (Note the back side of the Depth
finder readout panel)
Note the location of Dicks access cover for his depth
gauge, just forward of the post, and a bit to port.
This is a photo looking forward along the keel line
of the hull under the sole of the Cabin. The camera was inserted
through the Depth gauge access cover for the shot. The module
base was filled with mineral oil, then was epoxied into place.
This is Dicks installation of the Readout for the Depth
gauge.
Those of you who have pre 1980 models, eat your heart
out, 1980 was the first year to sport the fiber glassed sole in
the cabin. I kind of like the idea here of having the hoses and
thru hulls exposed for the cockpit. In the 1981 and newer models,
the entire plumbing for the thru hulls is hidden from view in
the "hump" you see behind the thru hulls in the picture
above. We do not know if the same molds for the sole were used
for all year models of the Vic that were produced after 1980,
but if one compares various boats, it can be seen that the thru
hulls from the same place in the cockpits, plunge through the
sole liner in different places in just about every boat made regardless
of the year.
Tom and I, after considerable time measuring his 1982
Cutter, and my 1981 Fractional, decided that the sole, can be
placed into the hull with up to 6 or more inches of "play".
This may have allowed for various issues such as thickness variations
in the hull laminate or for variations in placement of the deck
on the hull. With the "final" assembly being 3 pieces,
they all had to fit together even though each had various differences
that could cause problems if the sole could not be "adjusted"
or "fitted" to the Hull and Deck as the parts were assembled.
On my 81 and Cas' 81, the cockpit drain thru hulls
and hoses are all hidden. In Mark Hannas '81 Model, the cockpit
thru hulls are 50% covered
by the "step" in the background. Here, on the 1980,
the cockpit thru hulls are completely exposed. This would mean
that either they used molds that were different, or that they
"moved" the sole back or forward as needed to get the
best fit the various differing dimensions of the hull and the
deck.
This is a picture looking back (to stern), from the
access port for the depth finder.
You can see the two screws from the top, they are for mounting
the cabin roof support
post in the cabin. On later models, the post was located in a
"formed" pocket just forward of the "foot"
area or the lowest part of the sole. Eventually, there was an
area here that was reinforced
with PVC tubing and glassed into place to help support the load
of the mast.
The 1980 Models did not yet offer a Lazarette. You
will also notice the Stainless motor Mount.The Lazarette required
building a different deck assembly. The Laz did not just "Mount"
onto the standard deck at the stern of the boat. The deck at the
stern actually rises about 3/4 of an inch, to create a level area
for the OEM or off the shelf Lid and frame assembly. The area
with the Laz is more level than the aft deck on a non Lazarette
model. Non Laz models have a curved top to the aft deck. The curved
deck would not accept a "flat" Laz assembly. I would
guess that either they had two molds for the deck, one for the
Laz, and one for the basic model. OR they could have also had
a "slide in" mold piece that basically made the std
model deck a Laz model, but the costs for that type of mold would
have been expensive.
My guess is that later on, in the '80 or '81 model
year, that they just made all Laz models, and it was a standard
even though you could have possibly ordered it without one, you
probably got it for free if you forced the issue because that's
the only way they made them.
Another reason for this thought is that the stainless
mount as seen above, interfers with the location of the Laz. In
order for the Laz to work, Bill had to find a smaller motor mount
that would not take up the valuable space on the aft deck. This
was found in the 2 1/2 inch by 7inch motor brass mount used on
the later models. It freed up the aft deck for a Laz, and made
the aft deck look cleaner when running with or without the motor
mount attached.
This gives rise to question why the newer Brass removable
mount allows so much vibration to move through the deck on the
units so equipped?
Quite possibly, the mount is moved back further than recommended
by the manufacture in order to leave enough room for the Laz cover.
This was the first year for the opening Quad ports.
Here you can see the early design with the stainless screws going
through the molding and into the roof.
On newer models, the ports contained "studs", attached
to the frame during manufacture, that went through the roof,
and were attached to the inside with stainless nylon locknuts.
This left a clean bezel around the port.
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